Developer and mayor talk about senior housing project on mayor’s front porch

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Developer Chad Hartle, who didn’t show up at last week’s Historic Preservation Commission meeting to present his senior housing project at the current Immaculate Conception site, talked with Maplewood Mayor Barry Greenberg on Greenberg’s front porch for about an hour since missing the meeting, Greenberg said in the Tuesday city council meeting. Hartle said he didn’t come to the meeting last week because of a miscommunication within his company. Greenberg said he wasn’t expecting the visit at his house.

He said he wanted Hartle to understand the process he will have to go through with the city to be able to proceed with the project—which would require the demolition of the Immaculate Conception school building.

The process, as Greenberg described it after the meeting, involves first getting the demolition permit, then going through Planning and Zoning to change the zoning, then to City Council to approved P&Z’s recommendation, then finally to Design and Review, with public input at every step. Greenberg said Hartle described the process as having a bit of a “headwind.”

Greenberg said he wants there to be as much public input as possible, and for everyone to hear what Hartle has to say. He also said the Maplewood commissions and city council could be influenced by public opinion.

He said Hartle now has three weeks—before the next Historic Preservation Commission meeting—to consider if he wants to proceed. And if he again doesn’t show up again at a meeting where he is expected, he can expect the demolition permit to be denied.

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  1. An hour “off the record” with the mayor, doesn’t seem that transparent.

    You mean like our former mayor ramming through her bestie for city manager whose husband was Knapper’s treasurer and not even POSTING that job at City Hall or on local job boards?
    Is that they type of “transparency” you are looking for? Or her “vetting” of city council members by asking them right off the bat “did you vote for me?”

    Sit this one out, “Eero” because your comments are laughably asinine. And hypocritical.

  2. Anybody remember the shady real estate developer in Maplewood MO Marty Simpson – They called him the Pied Piper of Maplewood MO he was partner with another shady character Jay Schober. Channel Nine interviewed him, and he would not show his face on television, only his long ponytail. He was interviewed in the turret building on the corner of Sutton Blvd. and Hazel. I tried to buy one of his builds in that complex, they were calling them condos. We scheduled a meeting I had my lawyer with me, but a shady real estate agent that worked for Marty and Jay her name was Christine showed up no Marty the managing partner showed. I am writing a novel on my experiences with characters of Maplewwod MO. Seems to still be going on. On this day May 30 2024
    A Manhattan jury found Donald Trump guilty of all 34 charges of falsifying business records Thursday. What a Shady Man…

    • Sunshine laws

      Sunshine laws are regulations requiring public disclosure of government agency meetings and records. Sunshine laws require specific businesses and government agencies to maintain transparency and disclose their activities to the public. The primary objective of these laws is to prevent fraud, corruption, inequality, and to maintain high ethical standards within such businesses and agencies.

      Federal sunshine laws were created by the Government in Sunshine Act (also known as the Sunshine Act), passed in 1976, the purpose of which was to promote accountability among agencies in the federal government. Nonetheless, the Sunshine Act also includes ten exceptions, and the act also permits agencies to close particular meetings on an individual basis because of the potential adverse impact that disclosure may have. Such nondisclosures may be permitted where premature disclosure would likely significantly frustrate the implementation of proposed agency action. Meetings may also be closed where another statute requires that they be closed or when the meeting deals with an agency’s participation in a civil action.

      The Freedom of Information Act is a classic example of a sunshine law. While most of these laws deal with economics or finance, they do extend to other areas as well. The medical sector is also required to comply with sunshine laws, where major corporate players in pharmaceutical companies, and manufacturers are required to disclose certain information which is a part of their regular reporting and operating procedure.

      Maplewood repeatedly violates Sunshine law.

  3. Developer Chad Hartle had a meeting with Maplewood Mayor Barry Greenberg on Greenberg’s front porch for about an hour. Mayor Greenberg states he did not expect the developer to show up at Mayor Greenbergs house.
    Any business man knows this is not suitable or proper in the circumstances: And it took one hour for Chad Hartle to accept this as not appropriate. ?

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